latest 20 messages by hodapp
  
  
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    [2014-02-13T02:30:03Z]
    hodapp
    and as much as people love to hate it, I've really rather liked working with Eclipse.
    
  
  
  
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    [2014-02-13T02:29:50Z]
    hodapp
    I use Emacs.
    
  
  
  
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    [2014-02-13T01:31:15Z]
    hodapp
    jaybe: Yes, and I'm asking what exactly entitles you to claim a sort of universal exception to the dictionary definition.
    
  
  
  
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    [2014-02-12T22:36:44Z]
    hodapp
    jaybe: If you murdered someone and it was never reported, then legally, you didn't murder either.
    
  
  
  
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    [2014-02-12T22:36:05Z]
    hodapp
    jaybe: None of these things are relevant to whether suing, and losing, is still suing.
    
  
  
  
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    [2014-02-12T22:32:48Z]
    hodapp
    jaybe: That's equivocating a specific jurisdiction's legal record of a suit with the general notion of suing.
    
  
  
  
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    [2014-02-12T22:31:38Z]
    hodapp
    Pretty much any definition you will look up for 'sue' will involve some notion of 'requesting' or 'filing', and will not require actually getting what you request.
    
  
  
  
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    [2014-02-12T22:29:20Z]
    hodapp
    If you threatened your target with a weapon and you had intention to kill them, but you did not, that would still likely constitute 'assault'. That's a closer analogy than 'murder'.
    
  
  
  
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    [2014-02-12T22:27:40Z]
    hodapp
    That's because the definition of 'murder' involves actual killing of a person, while the definition of 'sue' does not involve anything as to actually winning the lawsuit.
    
  
  
  
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    [2014-02-12T22:26:06Z]
    hodapp
    Frivolous suits may be another matter for as far as legal records are concerned.
    
  
  
  
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    [2014-02-12T22:20:14Z]
    hodapp
    Instigation of a lawsuit, period, is to have been sued.
    
  
  
  
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    [2014-02-12T22:11:08Z]
    hodapp
    All I'm saying is that they threatened to sue, yes, but they also *did* sue. There is a documented lawsuit. It's still suing if you bring a lawsuit against a person, regardless of that lawsuit's outcome.
    
  
  
  
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    [2014-02-12T22:07:23Z]
    hodapp
    does this somehow tie into the threat of flatulence?
    
  
  
  
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    [2014-02-12T22:05:55Z]
    hodapp
    yeah, the court ordered them to break up, but that was turned over on appeal.
    
  
  
  
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    [2014-02-12T22:03:23Z]
    hodapp
    as far as I know, they *were* sued; that doesn't mean that the lawsuit destroyed them.
    
  
  
  
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    [2014-02-12T22:01:34Z]
    hodapp
    jaybe: 'threaten to fart in your presence' still constitutes the aforementioned threat, even if said flatulence is no real threat to you.
    
  
  
  
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    [2014-02-12T21:59:16Z]
    hodapp
    jaybe: 'threat' and 'threat to sue' aren't the same thing though.
    
  
  
  
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    [2014-02-12T21:55:55Z]
    hodapp
    jaybe: well, what I mean is that they went further than threatening, I thought
    
  
  
  
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    [2014-02-12T21:55:37Z]
    hodapp
    over bullshit that continues to plague me today sometimes, like IE being so tightly coupled to the OS
    
  
  
  
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    [2014-02-12T21:55:22Z]
    hodapp
    jaybe: I'd read a bit about it, but I thought a case was actively going on from the DOJ that was eventually just dropped